Sunday, April 02, 2000

Goering Quote

Nuremberg Diary
G.M. Gilbert



December 11


{p.66} LUNCH HOUR: ...{Goering said}...After the United States gobbled up California and half of Mexico, and we were stripped down to nothing, territorial expansion suddenly becomes a crime....



December 15-16


WEEK END IN JAIL

{P.72} Rosenberg's Cell: ...instead of having 90 per cent of the doctors in Berlin Jewish, reducing them to 30 per cent, or something like that—which would have been a liberal quota even then.—I had no idea that it would lead to such horrible things as mass murder.—We only wanted to solve the Jewish problem peacefully. We even let 50,000 Jewish intellectuals get across the border. Just as I wanted Lebensraum for Germany,
I thought the Jews should should have Lebensraum for themselves—outside of Germany. There was no use tryiong to send them to Palestine, because it meant moving 800,000 Arabs out of the territory with the help of British bayonets."



December 25


AGGRESSION IN RETROSPECT

{p.91} Keitel's Cell: ...When we couldn't get across to England—which was imposssible because we didn't have enough ships—he just had to do something. What else could he do? Take Gibralter? We wanted to, but Franco was afraid to risk it. Sit tight? Impossible.—That was all England needed to starve us out sooner or later. And all the time the life blood of our Wehrmacht came from the Rumanian oil fields. Remember that, professor. Oil! That was the vital key to the whole situation. Without oil we couldn't last a week.—And there was Russia; they could cut us off at any time. I think Hitler must have seen that we were actually in a desperate position. We were getting about 150,000 tons of oil a month from Rumania. We needed as absolute minimum of 300,000 to 350,000 tons a month to run a war. The 100,000 or so that we were getting from home production including synthetic was only a drop in the bucket. Why the Luftwaffe alone needed 100,000 a month. If we lost the Rumanian oil fields we were finished...



December 28


THE FÜHRERPRINZIP

{p.97} Rosenberg's Cell: Discussing the Führerprinzip,* he launched into another typical Rosenbergian piece of historical rationalization. The Führerprinzip had merely been abused, like many other great ideas of history. "The French Revolution was dedicated to the idea of brotherhood, but they ended in a blood bath in achieving it—and no one thinks of that now; the Catholic Church preached the doctrine of peace on earth, good will toward men, but look at the mass murders in the Inquisition; Luther wanterd an enlightened Reformation, but look at the bloody 30 Years War with both Protestants and Catholics killing each other in the name of God. Would you hold Luther responsible for that war?...


*Führerprinzip, or "Leadership Principle," according to which the leader's word was law and civilians as well as soldiers were responsible only to their immediate superiors and ultimately to the Führer, to whom the owed unquestioning obedience.


{p.98} ...That is where the Führerprinzip went awry, It was intended for perhaps 200,000 political leaders, not for a whole nation of 80,000,000....



January 3


"EVENING IN JAIL

{p.103} Goering's Cell:...To think that Germans will be so rotten to prolong this filthy life—to put it bluntly—to piss in front and crap behind a little longer!—Herrgott, Donnerwetter!—Do you think I give that much of a damn about my lousy life?—" He faced me squarely with blazing eyes. "For myself, I don't give a damn if I get executed, or drown, or crash in a plane, or drink myself to death!—But there is still a matter of honor in this life!—Assassination attempt on Hitler!—Ugh!—Gott im Himmel!! I could have sunk through the floor! And do you think I would have handed Himmler over to the enemy, guilty as he was? Dammit, I would have liquidated the bastard myself!...



January 12-13


WEEK END IN JAIL

{p.121} Rosenberg's Cell: And what about that Open Door to China? Was it democracy to force a war on them so that England could corrupt 30 million Chinese with opium? Have you ever seen those opium dens? That is much worse than concentration camps. That is how millions of Chinese were spiritually murdered so that the Open Door for foreign trade could be maintained—and the various sects could keep sending missions. That is what I call racial prejudice with a vengeance!"

"But what about the democratic principle that people have to learn to live together and assimilate or live in mutual respect? New cultures always develop through the amalgamation of the old, and an artificial barrier to keep them separate is impossible in modern civilization."

"Maybe it will work out that way in America; I doubt it. It is only natural for the members of a group to feel a common bond and protect themselves and their identity."



4 The French Prosecution

January 17


OPENING ADDRESS

{p.123} MORNING SESSION: M. Francois de Menthon, chief French prosecutor, opened the French prosecution with an impassioned denunciation of the Nazi aggression which had wounded France's national pride as well as her human and material resources;

"France, who was systematically plundered...



15 The Russian Prosecution

February 8


OPENING ADDRESS

{p.136} MORNING SESSION: {General Rudenko:}...The valiant struggle of the peoples of democratic countries, led by the coalition of the three great powers—The Soviet Union, The United States of America, and Great Britain—resulted in the liberation of the European countries from the Hitlerite yoke. The victory of the Soviet and the Allied armies destroyed the criminal plans of Hitlerite conspirators and liberated the people of Europe...


March 22


{p.210} Goering's Cell: "Did you ever see one of their seminaries? There are 14, 15, 16, and 17-year-olds from all over the world, and you can see at 10 paces that they are selected pederasts. It stands to reason. You cannot go against human nature. When we arrested their priests because of homosexuality, they hollered that we were persecuting the Church.—Some persecution! We had to pay them close to a billion marks a year in taxes anyway.—But the catholic clergy—don't you think I know what goes on behind drawn curtains in those confessions, or between the priests and the nuns. The nuns are 'brides of Christ' you know.—What a setup!"



April 9


{p. 251} LUNCH HOUR: Goering had said he wanted to know how it was technically possible to murder 2½ million Jews. I explained it to him during the lunch hour, just as Hoess explained to me this morning: each of the gass chambers could acfcomodate up to 1500 or 2000 persons; the killing was eaasy but burning of bodies took all the time and manpower. Goering felt extremely uncomfortable at the realization that it was no longer possible to deny the extent of the mass murders on the basis of the technical incredibility of the numbers. He wanted to know just how the order was given. I told him that Himmler had given it to him directly as a Führerbefehl (order from the Führer).

"He is just another German being loyal to the Führer," I commented.

"Oh, but that has nothing to do with loyalty—he could just as easily have asked for some other job—or something," Goering
{p.252} speculated. "Of course, somebody else wouyld have done it anyway."

"What about killing the man who ordered the mass murder?" I asked.

"Oh, that is ewasily said, but you cannot do that sort of thing. What kind of a suystem would that be if anybody could kill the commanding officer if he didn't like his orders? You have got to have obedience in a militarty system."

If I am not mistaken, millions of Germans are sick of this obedience and blind loyalty among their leaders. I think they would have preferrred a little less loyalty to the permanent shame that loyalty to the Führer had brought them. There ios an article on the trials in yesterday's Nürnberger Nachrichten with the headline Blind Obedience without Conscience.' You ought to read it and see what the people think of your blind obedience, and Ribbentrops's and Keitel's."

Ach, what the American-controlled newspapers print now does not mean a damn." He nevertheless seemed disturbed over the idea that this was what the German people were reading and agreeing with nowadays.



15 Schacht's Defense

April 30


SCHACHT TAKES THE STAND

{p.307} MORNING SESSION: ...Schacht maintained that he was justified in objecting to the Versailles Treaty, since even America refused to ratify the treaty as a betrayal of Wilson's 14 Points.



May 16


RAEDER'S TESTIMONY

{p. 335} MORNING SESSION: Raeder testified that Hitler did not want to compete with England in naval rearmament, and therefore made the Naval Pact of 1935 which preserved a 3-to-1 ration of the British and German naval tonnage. That was a breach of the Versailles Treaty on both sides, of course...



June 5


"STRATEGIC NECESSITY" AND WAR GUILT

{p.366} Jodl continued to testify how Hitler had started talking to him about the posssible hostilities with Russia in July, 1940, and had asked if they should not get ready to forestall an attack by Russia in the fall. Hitler ordered him to improve campaign conditions in the East. Two divisions were sent to Poland for readiness "to protect the Rumanian oil fields." Hitler was convinced that Russia would squeeze or attack them in the near future, and England would encourage it. Incidents at the demarcation line in Poland increased. There were reports of increasing strength of Russian troops near the border...

June 6



{p.369} AFTERNOON SESSION: ...cross-examination of Jodl..."If it is proven that Russia had no intention of attacking us."



Appendix I—The judgment

{p.444} SCHACHT: "...Tribunal...comes to the conclusion that this necessary inference has not been established beyond a reasonable doubt."

Verdict: NOT GUILTY.

DOENITZ: "...evidence does not show he was privy to the conspiracy to wage aggressive wars or that he prepared and initiated such wars...The Tribunal is of the opinion that the evidence does not establish with the certainty required that Doenitz deliberately ordered the killing of shipwrecked survivors...

Sentence: 10 years imprisonment.

RAEDER: "...The conception of the invasion of Norway first arose in the mind of Raeder and not that of Hitler...Rader endeavered to dissuade Hitler from embarking upon the invasion of the USSR...
Verdict: GUILTY on counts 1, 2, and 3.
Sentence: Life imprisonment.

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